http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/ Sat, 30 May 2026 12:41:46 +0000 MyBB http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=21516 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:53:48 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=21516
As many of you already know, from 2018+ Fiat Group Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep vehicles all have a new security module that renders the OBD II port inoperable for all aftermarket devices and tuners, this system is called: The Security Gateway (SGW) module.

"The SGW module is a Cyber Security hardware device to stop unwanted access and threats to the Controller Area Networks (CAN’s) for the vehicle. The gateway does not contain any drivers, and therefore does not directly operate or control any vehicle components.
The complexity of in-vehicle networking has led to the development of a variety of bus standards and protocols that are specific to their application domains. The SGW module serves as the information bridge between these communication domains and the diagnostic scantool. Serving also as the vehicle’s central interface for diagnostics and OEM flashing, hardware security features prevent unauthorized network access.
The Security Gateway (SGW) module is located in the Controller Area network (CAN) architecture between the Data Link Connector (DLC), Radio Receiver Module (RRM) and Star Connector for Powernet. The main function is to gate messages from one bus to another. It will provide security against certain types of attacks and threats from the service tool or RRM bus to the vehicle. The module gates messages within the CAN-C bus, or the CAN-CH bus. The module contains up to eight dual wire CAN channels that comply with CAN-FD (the module does NOT support partial networking functionality).The module is a frame gateway, it does not provide signal gateway functionality. With the gating there are several criteria that must be met, that is to say the message must be on the allowed list from the source bus. The SGW module prevents threats to the bus systems through the DLC. A secure connection must be present to allow authentication between the SGW module and the diagnostic scantool. The SGW module will then allow the radio to turn ON via the system data bus."

I want to open this topic in order to share thoughts and ideas about this issue, I'm nothing but just a fly on the wall, but this was brought to my attention just recently, I know that from long ago some features of this where pinpointed here in the forum but I want to reopen this in order to see if somehow joining forces could be some sort of solution for all of us, because the only tool at the moment that I have knowledge that works on those is the Micropod 2 Dealer tool via internet. So far I want to share my two pence's with all of you, I don't want to advertise but I think this is interesting, if somehow this breaks any rule please delete the attachment.
Hoping to hear from you all.

Best Regards.]]>
As many of you already know, from 2018+ Fiat Group Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep vehicles all have a new security module that renders the OBD II port inoperable for all aftermarket devices and tuners, this system is called: The Security Gateway (SGW) module.

"The SGW module is a Cyber Security hardware device to stop unwanted access and threats to the Controller Area Networks (CAN’s) for the vehicle. The gateway does not contain any drivers, and therefore does not directly operate or control any vehicle components.
The complexity of in-vehicle networking has led to the development of a variety of bus standards and protocols that are specific to their application domains. The SGW module serves as the information bridge between these communication domains and the diagnostic scantool. Serving also as the vehicle’s central interface for diagnostics and OEM flashing, hardware security features prevent unauthorized network access.
The Security Gateway (SGW) module is located in the Controller Area network (CAN) architecture between the Data Link Connector (DLC), Radio Receiver Module (RRM) and Star Connector for Powernet. The main function is to gate messages from one bus to another. It will provide security against certain types of attacks and threats from the service tool or RRM bus to the vehicle. The module gates messages within the CAN-C bus, or the CAN-CH bus. The module contains up to eight dual wire CAN channels that comply with CAN-FD (the module does NOT support partial networking functionality).The module is a frame gateway, it does not provide signal gateway functionality. With the gating there are several criteria that must be met, that is to say the message must be on the allowed list from the source bus. The SGW module prevents threats to the bus systems through the DLC. A secure connection must be present to allow authentication between the SGW module and the diagnostic scantool. The SGW module will then allow the radio to turn ON via the system data bus."

I want to open this topic in order to share thoughts and ideas about this issue, I'm nothing but just a fly on the wall, but this was brought to my attention just recently, I know that from long ago some features of this where pinpointed here in the forum but I want to reopen this in order to see if somehow joining forces could be some sort of solution for all of us, because the only tool at the moment that I have knowledge that works on those is the Micropod 2 Dealer tool via internet. So far I want to share my two pence's with all of you, I don't want to advertise but I think this is interesting, if somehow this breaks any rule please delete the attachment.
Hoping to hear from you all.

Best Regards.]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=19506 Fri, 17 Mar 2017 23:30:08 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=19506 MV]]> MV]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=18713 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 00:29:55 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=18713 That images and instructions are simple. The simple design will quickly help to attach the "K" line to different wires on the DLC.
It is also possible to use an ELM device but that would depend on the serial data structure the manufacturer designed and specified for the controller being tested.
Make sure you have the correct schematic for the correct model.

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It is also possible to use an ELM device but that would depend on the serial data structure the manufacturer designed and specified for the controller being tested.
Make sure you have the correct schematic for the correct model.

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]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=18696 Sun, 09 Oct 2016 13:00:23 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=18696 FIAT - ALFA ROMEO - LANCIA with two CAN systems.

There are instructions and a link in the archive.
Instruction language in English and the rest in Italian.

YOU are the warranty company, do this correctly for the correct model.

Edit:
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]]> FIAT - ALFA ROMEO - LANCIA with two CAN systems.

There are instructions and a link in the archive.
Instruction language in English and the rest in Italian.

YOU are the warranty company, do this correctly for the correct model.

Edit:
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Password ONLY by PM for Active Members...

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]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=16857 Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:15:41 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=16857 I have a Delphi DS150e and it refuses to talk to Fiat Scudo 1.9D 2004, i have try with EOBD but will not show any fault code.
Can anyone recommend something?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.]]> I have a Delphi DS150e and it refuses to talk to Fiat Scudo 1.9D 2004, i have try with EOBD but will not show any fault code.
Can anyone recommend something?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=16442 Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:34:51 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=16442
IAW Scan 2

Description:
Diagnostic application for Magneti-Marelli IAW 8F/16F/18F/04K ECUs written in C# for .NET 2.0

Features:
Support for the popular VAG-COM KKL USB interface (with FIAT 3-pin adapter)
Live Data read out from Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Error Codes read out & Cancellation from Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Active Components Testing on Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Supported ECUs: Magneti-Marelli IAW-6F, IAW-8F, IAW-16F, IAW-18F, IAW-18FD, IAW-04K and IAW-1G7
Supported Cars:
FIAT (Cinquecento 900/1100, Seicento 900/1100, Panda 1.0/1.1, Punto 55/60/75/85, Tipo/Tempra 1.6, Coupe S 2.0, Tipo 2000, Palio/Siena 1.0/1.4),
Lancia (Y 1.2, Delta/Dedra 1.8, Delta/Dedra 2.0 16V),
Alfa-Romeo (145/146 1.3 BOXER, 155 2.0 16V)

Link:http://sourceforge.net/projects/iaw-scan2/?source=typ_redirect

Go to the link and read all the descriptions, images and download directly.

There are NO viruses and used on XP Professional.

Post your results if it works.

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IAW Scan 2

Description:
Diagnostic application for Magneti-Marelli IAW 8F/16F/18F/04K ECUs written in C# for .NET 2.0

Features:
Support for the popular VAG-COM KKL USB interface (with FIAT 3-pin adapter)
Live Data read out from Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Error Codes read out & Cancellation from Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Active Components Testing on Marelli IAW-x6F/x8F(D) and IAW-04K ECU (ECM)
Supported ECUs: Magneti-Marelli IAW-6F, IAW-8F, IAW-16F, IAW-18F, IAW-18FD, IAW-04K and IAW-1G7
Supported Cars:
FIAT (Cinquecento 900/1100, Seicento 900/1100, Panda 1.0/1.1, Punto 55/60/75/85, Tipo/Tempra 1.6, Coupe S 2.0, Tipo 2000, Palio/Siena 1.0/1.4),
Lancia (Y 1.2, Delta/Dedra 1.8, Delta/Dedra 2.0 16V),
Alfa-Romeo (145/146 1.3 BOXER, 155 2.0 16V)

Link:http://sourceforge.net/projects/iaw-scan2/?source=typ_redirect

Go to the link and read all the descriptions, images and download directly.

There are NO viruses and used on XP Professional.

Post your results if it works.

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]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=14816 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 05:50:40 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=14816 Thanks in advance.]]> Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=12680 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 21:32:41 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=12680 If i remember right pin 4 and 17 where power on the plug side?
Please help!]]> If i remember right pin 4 and 17 where power on the plug side?
Please help!]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=11884 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 08:53:36 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=11884 Does clone work ok? What is possible with the software, make keys, reprog, is it updatable?
Thanks. ]]> Does clone work ok? What is possible with the software, make keys, reprog, is it updatable?
Thanks. ]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=9203 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:10:35 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=9203 When scanning CAN systems on FIAT, specially FIAT BODY's, you must consider to modify ELM327 as indicates on official page of FIAT MULTIECUSCAN... In other words, you must get rid of 120 ohms resistance present between CAN H and CAN L lines in almost every Chinese clone of this interface. If you don`t do that, scanning would be impossible for that systems. Any problems ask me. Bye.]]> When scanning CAN systems on FIAT, specially FIAT BODY's, you must consider to modify ELM327 as indicates on official page of FIAT MULTIECUSCAN... In other words, you must get rid of 120 ohms resistance present between CAN H and CAN L lines in almost every Chinese clone of this interface. If you don`t do that, scanning would be impossible for that systems. Any problems ask me. Bye.]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=8741 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:45:15 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=8741

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]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=6465 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 22:28:50 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=6465 S/N is in eeprom on back board "Intel Pentium" processor. To desoldering this chip I suggests screw the radiator back and use hot air on 400C and make this quickly.

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]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5915 Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:03:02 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5915 I didn't think so since i found in youtube a video.



]]> I didn't think so since i found in youtube a video.



]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5541 Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:34:53 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5541
http://www.actia.com.br/ingles/produtos_....php?id=75]]>
http://www.actia.com.br/ingles/produtos_....php?id=75]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5489 Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:38:18 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5489
ive seen the Cryptoworks solution but unless im going to start doing these on a commercial basis via something like ebay then the initial expense outruns my goal

any help greatly appreciated,thanks]]>
ive seen the Cryptoworks solution but unless im going to start doing these on a commercial basis via something like ebay then the initial expense outruns my goal

any help greatly appreciated,thanks]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5018 Thu, 30 May 2013 20:14:45 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5018 Somebody know where can i find a new touchscreen for my smart examiner? Now i use it only with a mouse. Thanks!]]> Somebody know where can i find a new touchscreen for my smart examiner? Now i use it only with a mouse. Thanks!]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=3385 Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:54:26 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=3385
I'm looking for someone who still uses this very very old tool:



I've recently acquired one and it's a real pain to get it to work, I've managed to get the software for it, made the cables for it (I had neither), but it's vci part just doesn't seem to work right. I think it might be a software installation problem, because after installing the examiner software itself on win 3.1, windows won't start up again, only after adding 2 files and replacing system.ini with a copy I made before the install. After that everything seems to work right, vci test passes without problems, but when I try to connect to a car there's no communication and when I connect an oscilloscope to K-line, the examiner only makes a single impulse...so something is coming out, but I don't think that's enough.
If you guys have any ideas, I'm all ears...
Any help is welcome ]]>
I'm looking for someone who still uses this very very old tool:



I've recently acquired one and it's a real pain to get it to work, I've managed to get the software for it, made the cables for it (I had neither), but it's vci part just doesn't seem to work right. I think it might be a software installation problem, because after installing the examiner software itself on win 3.1, windows won't start up again, only after adding 2 files and replacing system.ini with a copy I made before the install. After that everything seems to work right, vci test passes without problems, but when I try to connect to a car there's no communication and when I connect an oscilloscope to K-line, the examiner only makes a single impulse...so something is coming out, but I don't think that's enough.
If you guys have any ideas, I'm all ears...
Any help is welcome ]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2792 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:21:19 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2792
I have a '97 Fiat Marea 1.4 12v petrol, with Bosch Monomotronic ECU to diagnose, the engine light (not key code, the injector light) persists to light up when the engine runs for a while, although with the "restart" of the "car" she turn off, and then light on again when running...with the light on the engine runs a bit wobbly!
I have the 3pin to OBD plug J1962 adapter cable and an ELM327, but can't find a software that reads out that ECU... any ideas?

Thanks ]]>
I have a '97 Fiat Marea 1.4 12v petrol, with Bosch Monomotronic ECU to diagnose, the engine light (not key code, the injector light) persists to light up when the engine runs for a while, although with the "restart" of the "car" she turn off, and then light on again when running...with the light on the engine runs a bit wobbly!
I have the 3pin to OBD plug J1962 adapter cable and an ELM327, but can't find a software that reads out that ECU... any ideas?

Thanks ]]> http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2731 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:45:30 +0000 http://www.auto-professionals.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2731
I need a diagnostic tool. Is Autocom works fine on all sub functions on Fiat's? Or the best way is to use elm + multiecuscan?

If you share your Autocom + fiat experiences I'll be glad.

Thanks.
Volkan]]>
I need a diagnostic tool. Is Autocom works fine on all sub functions on Fiat's? Or the best way is to use elm + multiecuscan?

If you share your Autocom + fiat experiences I'll be glad.

Thanks.
Volkan]]>